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Spoiler-Friendly Discussion

A topic by Minoh Workshop created Aug 21, 2021 Views: 14,005 Replies: 294
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Um desenho que eu tava fazendo do Kota, eu tava com medo de postar porque eu achei meio estranho, mas meu namorado disse que era pra eu postar ele falo " Amor, posta ai quando você acabar posta no Twitter, ai eu falei " Será Amor? "  Ai influenciado por ele postei

Developer

Ficou ótimo! Já repassei pro Nemo, o escritor responsável por Kota. Muito obrigado, e por favor nos informe quando postar no Twitter para que possamos retweetar.

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awesome to see some kota fanart, thanks for sharing :]

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Asterion is very lucky this isn't a dating sim. Even if I'd probably gravitate toward him, I just need to reiterate that Khenbish. Is. Hot. 

(Khenbish is also one of the more quietly funny characters. Not as much as Robert whose indiscernible sarcasm I deeply resonate with, but in a more politely veiled way than Luke despite their similarities. And they are much more similar than either would ever admit. His concept art on the wiki is... downloaded, for lack of a better descriptor.)

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Fun fact: Khenbish is part of an ancient and powerful pact. Two years ago when nanoff and I started discussing the project his condition for joining was for us to have a boar character precisely how he likes them. So let's just say nanoff put his all into Khenbish, and we had to go all out as well.

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I have a great many thoughts about this, but here are two:

1. Nanoff has amazing taste. That should be obvious but it bears repeating.

2. All pacts need a furry musclechub with some skin showing somewhere in the mix. I mean, what? Who said that? Uh...

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It's dawned on me why Robert is unfazed by virtually everything.

Dude has prosecuted the souls of friggin Nazis. Of course Luke had no chance of getting under his skin during the drinking game.

Gente postei a arte final desse Kota que eu fiz no Twitter ( Eu acho que postei, haha nao sei mexer direito no Twitte, mas acho que foi) ai eu espero que vocês gostem ❤❤

Developer

Oi, e muito obrigado! Ficou lindo, já mandei pro Nemo (o escritor responsável pelo Kota) e retweetei.

Ficamos muito gratos pela sua arte.

After reading the tablets, I am much more suspicious of our main character. There's a line in the middleground route (where you send Asterion to the valley during the first Argos meeting, but never again) where the narrator calls you both kings, or you both stand as kings. Something along those lines. And considering both Asterion and Laomedon were princes, my mind is turning. 

To be clear, I've always been suspicious of the MC being called "You" by the UI despite being given a name, but that was more of a metatextual element than anything in the story itself. However, I thought he might be Charon due to the Hades-like pattern of the neckerchief and misreading a line as saying MC and Charon had the same eyes when instead it said they didn't. 

(I do find it interesting that the bracelet seems similar to P's rosary like bracelet, and the neckerchief is reminiscent of Hades and Asterion... Hm. Bedtime. Otherwise my mind won't shut up.)

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Currently on chapter 15 of one of many playthroughs and I realized something.


The entire introduction of Jean (Hermes) and Robert to the MC might have been staged. We learn later on that Robert can see the composition of souls so unless Hermes could disguise his immortal soul Robert had to know right away what Jean was when he picked him up.

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What an amazing VN. Going into this I never expected just how engaging this would be. It's a testament to the writers talent how attached I am to these characters. What a great story. I know a few others have mentioned this but the music from the scene when they are deep underground and the star appears on Asterion's head is stuck in my mind. I'm amazed at the depth of atmosphere and emotion in that scene. Thank you so much for such a great story.

There are two little and strange things on my wishlist so I thought I'd mention them here.

1. Now that the hotel has Wi-Fi and things like tablets and phones are readily available to all the characters, I thought it would be really cute if the MC could start texting Asterion silly puns and dad-jokes whenever they are not together. And maybe start hinting at sexier things as well.... it would be cute as hell to see Asterion slowly comming more and more out of his shell as he responds.

2. For the project to build a gym, I really wish it would have included a sauna in the locker room. Anybody who's ever had a membership to a gym that is popular with gay men knows there's always one guy who goes to the gym all the time but doesn't work out... he just hangs out naked in the sauna. And we all know that would be Luke. I keep picturing a funny scene with Kota (who would obviously go for the "spa" experience ) being very irritated by a very chatty and very naked Luke talking his head off.....

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Glad you enjoyed the game TractorBoy!

1) Don't know how much progress you made on Asterion's optional project, but if you want scenes with the player character explaining modern technology to Asterion, that might scratch your itch if you feel like giving the game a replay (or keep it in mind for future builds). We're only scratching the surface of cute stuff the MC and Asterion can do together in 0.5, so rest assured we'll be adding a lot of these in the next story builds.

As for 2), we actually planned to add a sauna project to the hotel, but it didn't make the cut. R&D was kind of neglected in general for 0.5, hopefully we can add some more to an 0.5.2 patch once we're back from break.

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wow this was a trip

I loved every bit of this game. The writing was great, it was romantic and so well placed. Which it stood out the most was the characters. My god each character had this hidden depth to them. I felt connected to them and their plights. Two who really stood out was Aster(of course right?) and P. I loved the breakdowns and the their high moments. To the writers, I thank you for your hard work.

I only played the 0.5 but I'm glad i did. I would of died of anticipation, but where it left off was perfect. Want me having more but not to a point a point that I'm loosing my shit.

The art is amazing and i laughed my butt off from what the reason was for the sprites. Besides that, I been a fan of nanoff for awhile so it was a givin that i would enjoy. Backgrounds was amazing and the variety of characters was pleasant.

The plot kept me at the edge of my seat, but was sorta like a roller-coaster. The fire never grew too hot so I was able to rlax and take it all in at times. Which just further my love for the Game itself.

All and All without spoiling anything for the game hopefully. This is sorta just my Ramblings to ease my beating heart from this wonderful game. I apologies for having no worthwhile criticism but just praise for a wonder experience 

edit- I realized i was in the spoiler friendly forum lol

I am no achievement hunter so i cant say i would do ruthless run. I would not handle seeing my favorite bull in that state again. Let alone hurt him, but reading it was quite interesting. Going more into P's character. He felt so human to me. The way he fights his inner evil just felt so raw to me. made his and oscars story a great add on. It was hard to hate argo when he spilled the truth and did all those nice things to make up for his crimes. Though i understood P's rage so i would love to see what happens with that. 

lastly the main character is a great fit. I suppose a little prudish towards luke at first. I thought it would be funny to keep at his antics.  but i found myself picking choices true to me through him. Plus the deep fried memes just sent my sides to orbit. there is a clear Love for greek mythology along with a proper mix of modernism 

where do you geth theese fried emes i keep replaying the speed runner but i cant seem to explore the game properly? /any advice on this?

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The memes are not a speedrunner thing, all the backgrounds can see them. 

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The depend on how you tackle the first two argos encounters (chapters 3 and 11), that's all I'll say

Question, who is the Overseer? I can't figure it out ;-;

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Hint: You and every member of your staff excluding Wolf have met the overseer already :)

I still don't get it ;^;

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Whatever, this is the spoilers section anyway. Plus, it should be obvious if you read chapter 18. It's Hermes.

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Thanks!

Well Wolf might have seen them off in the distance but yeah didn't really meet.

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I seem to be having trouble with a few achievements. I did a second run to pick off what I left off. I got most of the other story quests done. But I was puzzled that I didn't have enough time to finish asterian's project. Or themba's thing. I picked mathematics instead of Arts. Did that make a pretty big impact. And I made less on the love chart at the end! It ain't the end of the world but I'd love to unlock all its mysteries.


Edit- I finally gotten most of the achievements, along with tons of different dialogs and play styles. I found a route that i am completely happy to run. BUT. How have you guys gotten all the stone tablets??????? Is it rng? 

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The tablets are RNG but, on one of the early days where you can start getting them from the valley, you can 'roll' a different tablet if you hit the back button a few lines. Once you get a tablet, it will permanently be unlocked in the main menu's files section, even if you rewind the conversation to roll again. You can just keep doing that until you get the achievement to pop, then go to the menu to read them.

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Your brain is so huge :0

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This seems to stop working once you have your Office. I believe the random seed for determining what you find in the valley seems to be set before or as you click "Confirm Plan", which you cannot then use the back button to move past. 

Mind you, the tablets are the most numerous collection, the transcripts should only have 6 to find in the valley (Poseidon and Athena are being saved for later builds, 2 gods totally abstained (IIRC devs implied they won't get a transcript because of this), and you get 5 guaranteed transcripts from Argos it seems) and that feels reasonable to not have this easy reroll scumming to get.

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Yeah. I hard-coded it on that one instance (if you push Argos to talk about the kilns) to always give you a tablet you don't have, so getting the achievement would be less annoying. 

Imagine being forced to grind on a fucking visual novel of all things. 

Just a question: In the ruthless route, why did Nikandros call upon and make a sacrifice to the Asterion-made shrine? He summoned a divine being and offered vitality of his own to get the bulk of the 'potion' he'd trick the master with-- but is this even necessary? 

In that route, he'd used the black color (reminiscent of divine ichor, maybe even real ichor) to hide the poisonous sap.  Why not just give the master a dose of the poison sap?  He'd be none the wiser. Did he want to trick but not lie to the Master? This makes sense if the ichor-colored fluid did have the effect he promised, just that he purposefully omitted the smidgen of poison that's included in the vial (haha). If so, why go the trouble? Wasn't he already resolute in offing the Master anyway? 

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Keep in mind he's following a certain someone's plan. That person is not particularly worried about his physical safety or health, and in fact she would argue he deserved the punishment if he really wanted redemption.

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Ooh, I gotcha. He prayed for guidance and got the knowledge of Poseidon's gift, and in turn, had our gracious narrator pit his resolve, huh? Thanks!

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alright, I gotten most of the achievements and played enough times to fully enjoy everything put into this game. So as of now, I have finished a run that I am comfortable with to put the game to rest till next update. 


With everything done here is what I did


I went art because you get great dialog and extra staff members. Which is important to me because Khembish and Themba happen to be very useful with finishing renovations and fun at the drinking table. (Sorry doggo)


For hinterlands. Shout out to the hinterlands page and the peeps who gave the best idea with go with the tapir skin and nurse their relationship. Along with the cabin. Made a pretty great run. I just couldn't find the Christian burial that story impacting compared to the previous two. The salt storm gets and the relationship made me happy. 


Figured out his name :) get surprise. And of course Argos been through enough. I'm glad he had a redemption arc, and a good one at that. 


Lastly with all these wonderful staff and the ending clear. I had no one leave the hotel. I'm assuming all relationships I made ended up built neatly. Once again I'm glad to play such a game and most importantly. I'm glad to be apart such a nice community and share ideas and with all of you. 

Anyone have any thoughts about Hermes' shrine at the hotel's bedrock? Besides being possibly littered with Asterion blood crystals, it also bears resemblance to Hestia's shrine as described in the clay tablets (the original labyrinth in Crete). The specific similarities were the basin and the shallow depression beneath it. 

Hestia's shrine in the labyrinth had a basin which houses a fire, and the depression filled with water to make a shallow pool. In terms of differences though, the basin was cracked (after Tithonus's and Asterion's executions), and tainted by at least Tithonus's ichor. Furthermore, it had an adjoining section/spot/room? that housed the labrys. 

What does this mean? Is a basin and a shallow depression a significant detail in Greek worship or sonething?

Did anyone figure out who was the narrator that spoke the us directly? My guess is maybe Hestia. 

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Up until now I thought that the narrator was Nemesis since her reveal during the Ruthless Route, but now that you mention it, it might be possible that there are multiple narrators, since there are times when they refer to themselves as a collective rather than a person. It would also line up with what Argos says about the Labyrinth having "multiple voices", though that might be completely unrelated phenomena. 

Even so, I'm still inclined to believe that it's Nemesis who watches us during the whole story. There's some very explicit dialogue outside of the Ruthless Route that hints to her being the narrator (Ch. 17, after forgiving Nikos: "Oh, [name], what a fine art you make of this brand of justice! This ceremony of yours has been nothing less than the finest of hymns to our ears. Stay this course, and we may yet award you a fine pair of wings to match your fine-weighing scale."). The way she uses "we" is more likely a reference to her sisters.

oh neat, I'd love to research her to get a better understanding of Nemesis for future reference. I never did ruthless so i was thinking more of the scene on chapter 18 giving a few jabs to athena. I like the idea that there could be multiple narrators that represent each path. Though I'm not sure what kind of person Nemesis yet. Argos mentions the multiple minds like the multiple thoughts a human. Could it elude to Pandora's box? I'm really just throwing ideas against a wall lol

my guess was it was the chorus of a Greek play. 

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does asterion lactate, asking for a friend

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He tapes a straw to his breast with a carton of milk 

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I've only recently gotten back into the game, with the release of 0.5 and I have to say I'm completely blown away. I've never had a visual novel play so hard with my feelings before, and honestly I'm completely hooked. Every character is so charming and fun to read, the art is amazing as well. The little romantic moments with Asterion warm my soul.

It's going to be hard to compromise with the idea that I wont be able to do everything in one run because of how amazing each character is and the fact that I just want everyone to be happy

Not going to lie, I tried the speedruner background but that ended as soon as Asterion called my taste in clothes cringe, can't believe the bull would just murder me in cold blood like that.

I have absolutely fallen in love with this world and the characters in it, I am excited to see where you take the story next.

That being said I'm also pretty excited for the possible Middle Eastern or New Zealander character (myself being a NZ born Arab) both demographics you don't usually see much in media, let alone furry media.

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We do have a concept for a Pacific Islander character! It will, however, take a while for us to implement him, he'll only become available later in the game and there are other priorities we need to deal with before getting to him.

im sorry but... 

how to make asterion wear a jockstrap >-<?

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You can't get it in the game yet. We'll get to that soon-ish.

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So I noticed something a little weird after playing the Ruthless Route and then replaying the Hinterlands, and I don't know if it deserves its own thread so I'm just putting it here. In all of the endings that involve P and Storm arriving to the hotel, there's a small scene where Storm gets scared when looking back at P, and that's what makes P realize that the hotel nullifies the effects of charms. That struck me as odd after thinking it over because up until that point I assumed that P and Storm could always see each other in their mythical forms, so if they walked into the hotel they wouldn't notice. I went back to check and there are indeed multiple points in the story where P comments on Storm's animal anatomy in public (him swaying his tail while he's in the tailor, for example), when Storm is very much wearing the charm. I thought that since their Oath of Kinship involved P physically giving part of himself, that whole thing was kind of a side effect. There's also a moment the first time they meet the Tapir god where P can't tell whether Storm's charm is working or not, so he asks him to check if it's active. 

If P can't tell the difference between when Storm is using the charm or not, then why is Storm able to? Is that something only the rite master gets? But that wouldn't make sense either, because Storm alludes to P's animal anatomy many times too, specially the feeling of his feathers.  He also doesn't make any comment on P changing his appearance after getting within the confines of the hotel in ch. 18. Then how did he realize that P's charm wasn't working? Is there some kind of indicative, and if so why does P not realize until he checks his passport himself?  I know this is most likely a very minor thing, but I'm going insane thinking about it. Is there something I'm missing????

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That's my bad! It's inconsistent/unclear and that's a mistake.

The ending of the Ruthless route and the Hinterlands were written months after each other and by different hands so a few details and explanations weren't coordinated perfectly. We might go back to fix this eventually.

I do have a few rules for how the charms work in this situation, though. As a rule of thumb, if you've spent  a good amount of time with a mythical when he wasn't wearing a charm you can see their true shape even when they're wearing a charm. Keeping in mind that charms only affect perception, it's basically that your brain gets so used to their real shape that it overcomes the illusion. Still, if you strain your eyes and make an effort you can still see their human form, kind of like tricking yourself into seeing an optical illusion in a different way.

So... P can notice on his own that Storm's charm is malfunctioning, it just takes a bit of effort. It's easier for him to just ask Storm to check it. That's the explanation for the inconsistencies you noticed.

We didn't touch on it as well as I wanted to but P's feathers make him capable of seeing through most charms, period. It's hard for any but the best charms to trick over a hundred supernatural eyes simultaneously. This also means that any mythical that P meets whose charm tricks him is packing some serious power.

Another detail is that, yes, the fact P made Storm's charm means that P can always see Storm's true shape, but that goes both ways. Storm can always see P's real shape as well.

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Ah, that makes a lot of sense!! The bits about the charm's workings are probably some of the most interesting parts of the worldbuilding imo, so I really like that you expanded on them here. But oh god, that thing with P... every new little bit of information that we get about Zezé just makes me more terrified of him. I'm really looking forward to see what happens with the whole missing children storyline, on one side because the scene in the shed is one of the best ones in the entire game, on the other because I'm just dying to know what the hell's going on. Hinterlands in general has me starving for more.

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omg wait

I moved house and have a crazy job and haven't had time to finish the update yet and am JUST NOW DISCOVERING that I was (maybe? idek) right about the P = Panoptes guess last update!?!

…okay fine I know it was obvious just let me have this

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Good job, detective!

I knew all of the relevant information to piece it together, but somehow still managed to miss it, so congrats! 

I figured out the origins of the armbands though so I'm willing to accept the loss

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Speaking of sex with Asterion:

Early on in the new lounge, each route gets a personalized conversation related to their background. However, it's the math route that has the one with Asterion asking if there are guides to sex on the internet. This is not long after Asterion talks about a mathematician friend he was especially close with. Very good, very fun, very slip of the tongue wikihow to slip in the tongue clipart.png.

oh yeah he did mention that when we turn on the hotel with hestias mirror , I was waiting for him to return to that topic in the following chapters, but was cliff hanged on that part. Hope that they return to that topic soon^^

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I wonder if there is a correlation between the scene where the master jokes about Asterion doing indecent things with his laundry (and Asterion is embarrassed) , your flip flop being missing before watching the movie with Kota, and the drinking game where Asterion is conveniently absent during Roberts question.

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funny how the master on many occasions, smelled asterion. But i can't remember if asterion did the same, but the dots are connecting funny enough. 

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I think Asterion does, the only one that I really remember is when comforting emaciated Asterion during his breakdown he takes in your scent.

Funny enough the sister scene to the laundry one has Asterion joking about kissing your feet.

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many positions, especially hugs, speak of how asterion's nose is basically on top of you so I don't doubt that it will happen, and about what disappears in a certain question I like to imagine that it is perverted

You know the several times when the player character engages in taking in the scent of the big moo, it's in regard to sunlight, hard work and the sweet scent of the sea. But I wonder what does our dear friend smell when he takes us in. And if it might be slightly different depending on your background. 

I vaugly remember something of the first hug described as them taking in each others scent, I might be wrong though

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