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Getting your controller connected Sticky

A topic by FPV Freerider created Apr 05, 2016 Views: 161,536 Replies: 317
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I just downloaded the demo, and it's not detecting my controller. It's the linux version running on Fedora 28. My transmitter is the FlySky fs-i6x which is connected via a BetaFlight controller. I've tested the controller in Flightgear and the joystick is automatically detected there.

Are there any logfiles, or other settings which I can try to get the controller detected?

Developer (1 edit) (+1)

I'm not a linux user myself so I'm not going to be able to be of much help here. If you have any other joysticks/controllers/drawing tablets connected at the same time you can try to disconnect those, having more than one can cause a conflict.

You might know of the jscal joystick calibration program, you could try playing around with the setting there.

Are you seeing any movement on any of the little circles as you go through the "calibrate controller" procedure in Freerider?

Hi! I bought the program and it starts both in ubuntu and in widows, and this is a good thing. I have two radios, one is the Devo7 and the other is the Flysky FS-I6S and of these radios I also have the original usb cables, and that's a good thing.

The problem is my ignorance in connecting and making these three things work.
I would like to run FPV Freerider on ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS and the Devo7 radio, who can help me by guiding me step by step? I am sixty years old and my brain is no longer elastic ;(

Developer (2 edits)

Your best bet to find specific instructions for your particular setup would be to search around for youtube videos and/or forum posts from people who have similar equipment. 

Since you have the Devo 7 that does not have a USB port it becomes a bit more tricky. You will need to connect it via the trainer port instead.

On Windows that would be pretty easy using a software called Smartpropolus. I haven't been able to find a similar software for Linux.

(Devo 7E in combination with Deviationtx would be easier since that can act as a USB joystick)

You might also be able to use a universal 22-in-1 USB dongle such as this. 

https://www.banggood.com/22-in-1-RC-Flight-Simulator-Cable-for-Realflight-G7-G6-...

Not sure if it works on Linux.

(You might also be able to connect it via  a wireless USB dongle in combination with a receiver for the Devo 7, I wouldn't really recommend going down that path unless you are willing to do a lot of research though).

It might just be easier to get a USB dummy controller such as this:

https://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-Httpwww_banggood_comWholesale-6CH-G4-XTR5_0-R...

Not sure if that works on Linux either though. So in summary, I cannot give a definite answer for such specific and hmm shall we say tricky equipment. There are so many Linux distributions and variations, you need to try it on your own setup to know what will work for sure.

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Hello is the freerider compatible with the frsky XSR-Sim USB dongle? I am trying to use it but the freerider does not detect all channels  but if I use same radio taranis qx7 with other dongle rx2sim, it works perfectly but  I want to use the new frsky XSR-Sim dongle. 

I tried in another computer and same problem.

Developer

Yes it should work. I believe you need to have TAER channel order set up on your radio.  You can have a look at this video for instructions:

Hope that helps!

the frsky dongle works perfectly with others sims like liftoff but no luck with fpv freerider  ,

Developer

Are there a few channels that are giving input during the calibrate controller procedure, and some that does not? (You should see the movement of each stick represented by one of the little circles above the OK button)

In that case you can check:

- Make sure you don't have any other joysticks/controllers connected, that might cause a conflict.
- Make sure you uninstall vJoy and Smartpropoplus if you have them. Their driver messes with things when connecting via USB.
- Make sure you have "Heli" selected as model type on your radio.("Plane" often doesn't work very well).
- Perhaps you can remap the output channels (in the menu of the transmitter) so that it sends to another channel.

hi thanks for reply, I don't have any other controller connected, and I don't have installed vjoy, please see the video I uploaded on YouTube and you Cann see the problem, I tried in a tower pc and a  laptop and I have the  same problem 

Developer

Thank you for the video. Have you tried setting up your transmitter according to the Taranis setup document?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwSDHIR7yDwSOGhPMTFyWEpDVWM/view?usp=sharing

I think it might work if you do.

dear developer, I want to let you know that it is solved now after put the  new settings in my taranis. thank you very much 

Developer

Thank you, I'm glad to hear that solved it!

Thank you for replying and finding a solution to the problem.  I too had the same exact issue that jaseduar10 was having.  Freerider works perfectly without any modification to model settings when connected to either directly to USB, or using HobbyKing Orange FrSky USB Dongle wirelessly.  But i feel the problem should be addressed.  XSR-SIM works with other Sims without any model settings.  Why is FreeRider interpreting inputs incorrectly when connected with XSR-Sim USB dongle only?  I have many sims, but Freerider is the one I come back to when I need to refresh my thumbs when I haven't flown in awhile.  But if we make model settings on the X9D, makes me feel differently about using FreeRider as a "Sim".  

Thanks for all your support

Developer

FPV Freerider is developed in Unity and uses Unity's input managed. I can only read what is coming through the input manager. 

With the benefit of hindsight perhaps I should have used another input manager, but currently I am hesitant to make any major changes to the input method since that might cause unexpected issues for people who have it set up working fine as it is now.

So when you have multiple joystick controllers/drivers it doesn't let you select which you are using.  So if you arnt using the first one it detects you are screwed. (at least that's how it seems like its acting)  Any way to fix that? Controller works fine with all other sims. Thanks!

Developer (1 edit)

Yes that's a known issue, I haven't managed to find a fix for it without changing the very core of the input system (which I am reluctant to do since that might cause other issues), so you will have to work around it by only have your controller connected.

I think this is an important change. I have like 8 controllers connected between VR, Flightsticks, and XBox controller.

I just ordered a FlySky i6 transmitter. Will FreeRider work with this unit?

Thanks

Developer

Yes many people are successfully using that transmitter with Freerider, so it should work. 

You can have a look at this video for an example on how to get it connected:

There are also many other videos that show how to do it.

I have flown the Freerider Simulator for almost 2 years now, but on my old computer.. (WIndows 7, I think).. I now have a new computer, WIndows 10, and am using the same FrySky controller AND dongle and cord.  It will not recognize the same controller, dongle, and cord.. Is there a NEW dongle and cord that I need to purchase?  I am trying to train other pilots, so I am steering them in your direction to buy the simulator package and hardware and log into Freerider FPV... Any help would be greatly appreciated..

Developer

You should still be able to use the same equipment. The input system of FPV Freerider is the same. 

Note that if you are using a FrSky 9X/Frsky Q X7 or similar you should be able to connect it directly via USB cable (no need for a dongle). There are lots of youtube videos that shows how that is done, a collection of links is at the very first post of this forum thread.

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Thank you so much... I will try it... Just got a NEW cable in from EBay..  I am using the FlySky FS-I6 controller, actually the exact same controller that is used in the video posted just above...  It has the connector for the back of the transmitter and a second smaller cord that makes it a USB (red light inside).. When these are used together, it works fine.. This has been the one that has always worked in the past with my old laptop and Windows 7..


With apologies, I got fat fingers.. I meant FLYSKY FS-I6

Hello. Thank you for perfect simulator! I have one issue on linux. Simulator not see joystick with pid/vid 16c0:27db (Van Ooijen Technische Informatica Keyboard), with 16c0:27dc (Van Ooijen Technische Informatica Joystick) all fine. In windows and in crrcsim all works too. Is it possible to add 27db support to linux version?

Developer

Thank you, I'm glad you like it! I'm not exactly sure what you mean since I'm not a Linux user myself. However, in short, I don't have direct control over the input - I can only see what comes through Unity's input manager (I use Unity for development). Therefore any device needs to be correctly recognized by the Unity input manager to work.

Thank you for answer. I found how to add device to Unity project, but not sure,  if it help someone except me. May be simpler to fix joystick.

Just changed PID on working device to 28db (Keyboard), and ... It still working 
Problem not in PID, will look further...

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Hi...my pitch channel moves this third circle, not my roll. Still wouldn't be a big deal here as I could always swap my roll and pitch channels on the Taranis. If I move my pitch up and hit OK it is saved as roll and the roll turns green; finally, when it asks for pitch. This controller is fast and long running hardware, because it has good pcb assembly and the efficient design.

Developer

Hi, sometimes the automatic stick detection gets it wrong.
Keep an eye on the little circles as you go through the calibration.
You can manually click on the circle that you see is the correct one for each stick (instead of clicking "OK")
Hope that helps!

can I connect my Flysky fs i6 sir... i have a ca

ble USB

Developer

Yes, you can have a look at some tutorial videos on how to connect it. For example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgV_YlA9pxo

There are many more videos that show how to do it, you can try searching for "flysky i6 freerider" on youtube for example.

Also there are some general advice in the user manual.

Hi everyone

I just bought the simulator and tried to connect my Taranis Q X7
The radio control firmware is opentx-x7, version 2.2.3 of 2019/01/07

I did the procedure found in "Taranis Setup (PDF)", then I found this video on youtube and this one taken from the first page of this thread, but the channels of the remote control are not detected in the right way. Only 2 of 4 work correctly.

Windows correctly sees the device. Opening the property page, the slides I see move correctly in relation to what I do in the radio control

What am I doing wrong?

thank you

Developer

When you go through the calibrate controller procedure, are you able to move four of the little circles with the sticks?

Sometimes the automatic stick detection gets it wrong. Keep an eye on the little circles as you go through the calibration. You can manually click on the circle that you see is the correct one for each stick (instead of clicking "ok")

If there are less than four circles moving as you go through the calibrate controller procedure you can try these things:

- Make sure you don't have any other joysticks/controllers connected, that might cause a conflict.
- If connecting via USB, make sure you uninstall vJoy and Smartpropoplus if you have them. Their driver messes with things when connecting via USB.
- Perhaps you can remap the output channels (in the menu of the transmitter) so that it sends to another channel.

Tthanks for your advice

the problem was another USB device
now everything works fine

all the best
thank you

Developer

Great, I'm glad to hear that you found the solution.

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Hi!

I'm looking forward an affordable radio controller (I'm a beginner) which works well under linux (LinuxMint 19 'Tara'). Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance!

Developer

First of all, if you happen to have an Xbox/Playstation controller (or similar gamepad with two analog nubs) laying around you can try that first of all. That will not give very accurate control though. It is way better to use an actual RC transmitter.

If you are thinking of getting into the hobby more seriously my best advice would be to get a good RC transmitter right away which you can use to fly your real quads as well as practice on the simulator. For example the Taranis Q X7  is a popular radio which is good value for money I would say. It is highly likely that it will work as a joystick on your Linux machine, connected directly via USB, but you will have to try to know for sure if it works on your setup. 

Thx!! After researching I think I'll go with the Taranis...

Hi.. Need Help..

I've used jumper T8SG V2 Plus to play FPV reader and it works in my PC using windows 10.....  but when I moved to use my laptop that still using windows 10, the T8sg is not full recognize by windows 10. I've calibrated it and the Y rotation is not working/detected... How to fix it?

Please Help...

Developer

Since it works on your desktop computer it should work on your laptop too. Here are some general suggestions that often help when one channel is not recognized:

- Make sure you don't have any other joysticks/controllers connected, that might cause a conflict.
- If connecting via USB, make sure you uninstall vJoy and Smartpropoplus if you have them installed. Their driver messes with things when connecting via USB.
- Make sure you have "Heli" selected as model type on your radio. ("Plane" often doesn't work very well).
- Perhaps you can remap the output channels (in the menu of the transmitter) so that it sends to another channel.

You could also simply try plugging it into another USB port and see if that makes a difference.

Hi...Thanks for your help.. it works now.. :) 

thanks a lot... :)

Developer

Great, glad to hear it's working now!

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Hello

Under MacOS the PS3 / PS4 / XBOX controller works correctly? without a dongle?

I am on Mac OS Catalina and I do not know what to buy as a PS3, PS4, XBOX360, XBOX ONE controller?

Which one works 100% under catalina?
Thank you

Bonjour

Sous MacOS la manette PS3/PS4/XBOX fonctionne correctement ? sans dongle ? 

Je suis sous Mac OS Catalina et je ne sais pas quoi acheter comme manette PS3, PS4, XBOX360, XBOX ONE ?

Lequelle fonctionne a 100% sous catalina ? 

Merci

Developer

Can't speak for what controllers will work best on your setup (especially since I don't even own a Mac myself), generally I would recommend using an actual RC radio most of all. There are models with USB connection possibility that can be found about for the same price as a Playstation/Xbox controller. And actual RC radio will give a lot more fine control. Also, since gamepads have self-centering throttle they will never be really ideal for simulator practice.

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SOLUTION!!!!

The important issue is that the USB drivers are almost messed up in all the three individual ones in a PC or laptop. One solution was to connect a power usb hub or in my case my hard disk had extra slots of usb that can be accessed by the pc or laptop. Then calibrate it again and save the model. Sometimes it does not work, then while calibrating try the reverse directions of the yaw or roll or whichever is messed up and finally invert them, all these have to be done is completely new usb  not the old ones. Hope this helps.

This is for windows 10. but still try for mac as well.

Developer (2 edits)

Thanks for sharing the information. Hmm it's strange that you have to re-do the calibration, you really shouldn't have to do that if you got it right once. In case it looses the calibration or there is some strange behavior like not all axis are working, it's usually some conflict with another USB device. If you have more than one input device connected at the same time (another joystick, drawing tablet etc..) that can cause a conflict.

(It might also be a problem with the USB driver. For example if you have installed vJoy/Smartpropoplus or similar software, that might cause a conflict with the USB driver).

I checked and I have no conflicting usb drivers and no other devices connected.  But I agree the usb drivers are the problem but we can conclude without the above mentioned conflicts there can still be room for error. Few months back It was working great actually without any hassle...

Developer (1 edit)

Well, since it was working before my guess is something has changed in your operating system (There has been no changes to the input method in Freerider). I know a lot of Windows 10 users started having problems with their USB drivers some weeks back due to an automatic Windows 10 update. You might need to revert to the old drivers, you can find more information and a possible solution here:

Windows 10 USB driver fix

www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk6bjS4PEWI

www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=SDnRSL3rDwM

I recently got an FrSky Taranis X9 Lite and i'm trying to get it to work but my windows PC isn't designating it as a controller, I've watched a bunch of videos and don't everything in them but I still cant get it to connect. 

Developer

Did you select "Joystick" as you connect it (not mass storage)? Do you see it as a joystick/HID-device in your Windows Control Panel>Devices and Printers ? You need to make sure that the radio is recognized as a joystick by your operating system first of all. If you are not able to get help here or by youtube videos my best bet would be do try to get help in a dedicated Taranis X9 Lite thread on the RC Groups forum for example.

Its set up as a joystick but my computer is not showing it as a joystick in devices, its showing as unspecified. I looked up more and it says something about the new USB drivers in the latest windows update not allowing taranis controllers to correctly interface with the computer.

I got it to recognize it on my computer now but when i calibrate my controller its not calibrating yaw and roll.

Developer (3 edits)

Yes, there was an automatic Windows 10 update that rolled out some weeks ago that broke the USB drivers. If anyone else is having a similar problem you can find more information here:
Windows 10 USB driver fix

youtube.com/watch?v=rk6bjS4PEWI

youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=SDnRSL3rDwM

https://batcavegames.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/16000099501-window...

Here are some general suggestions that often help when one or more channels are not recognized:
- Make sure you don't have any other joysticks/controllers connected, that might cause a conflict.
- If connecting via USB, make sure you uninstall vJoy and Smartpropoplus if you have them installed. Their driver messes with things when connecting via USB.
- Make sure you have "Heli" selected as model type on your radio. ("Plane" often doesn't work very well).
- Perhaps you can remap the output channels (in the menu of the transmitter) so that it sends to another channel.

Please note that during the calibrate controller procedure in Freerider, sometimes the automatic stick detection gets it wrong. If needed, it is possible to manually override the automatic stick detection 
Keep an eye on the little circles above the OK button. Instead of clicking OK you can click on the circle that you see is the correct one for each channel. (You will still need to keep the stick all the way in the direction shown while clicking in order for the calibration to work correctly).

There is more information in the user manual and Taranis setup document.

Hey i've tried to use 3 differents xbox controllers and in fpv freerider, on the 3 controller, the right stick dont work. All the axes are stuck and in windows game controller manager everything is fine and it work fine in other games. Anyione can help me?

Developer

I see, you get the same result with all three controllers?

Often when only one axis is not working, it can be fixed by trying one of these things:

- Make sure you don't have any other joysticks/controllers connected at the same time, that might cause a conflict.

- Make sure you uninstall vJoy and Smartpropoplus if you have them. Their driver messes with things when connecting via USB.

Keep and eye on the little circles above the OK button as you go through the Calibrate Controller procedure in Freerider. You should be able to move some of the circles smoothly up and down using the analog sticks. Sometimes the automatic stick detecting gets it wrong, in that case you can manually click on the circle that you see is the correct one (instead of clicking 'ok"). (You will still need to hold the stick fully in the direction shown for the calibration to work correctly).

Hey!

Thank you a lot! there  was a conflict with my t16000m joystick! that was so simple! sorry for disturbing you and thanks again!!

Developer

I'm glad you managed to get it working!

Hi. Just looking for a bit of info regarding calibration of a controller via usb. I have a Betafpv Literadio 2 controller that shows up as a (Beta FPV Taranis joystick)  in the game controller section of my pc, but the sticks are all out of whack (in Freerider calibration I get semi smooth response from 2 directions on each stick, but the opposite 2 directions on each stick go straight to max input from the opposite direction (when ever you go past centre position) if that makes sense at all...). Had a look to see what I am getting in windows - game controllers> properties> test area. Left stick is giving me Z Axis & X Rotation input, right stick is giving me X Axis & Y Axis input. Are these the correct inputs or do I need to remap somehow?Thanks in advance.

Developer

Hi, from what you describe it sounds like you need to set up the endpoints on your radio.

I am not familiar with the Betafpv Literadio 2, but the issue sounds similar to what some Taranis users are experiencing (depending on what firmware version the Taranis is running).

In the case of the Taranis, the endpoints sometimes needs to be set up so that the range is from 0 to +100 (instead of -100 to +100)

It is described in this document: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwSDHIR7yDwSOGhPMTFyWEpDVWM/view?usp=sharing

There is also some youtube videos that shows how to do it on the Taranis, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlR5eqm1aKE

Also, if the automatic stick detection gets it wrong during calibration in Freerider you can manually click the circle that you see is the correct one (instead of clicking 'OK')

Hope you can use a similar method on your radio to get the calibration to work correctly!

Thanks for the fast reply. I think you are right. The range is currently - 100 to +100 (instead of 0 to 100). I have installed open tx 2.3.6 and can see those ranges in action when the sticks are moved but I can't figure out where to change the range to 0-100. Anyone have any info on this? Is that doc you sent me pictures of screen areas in open tx, or are they pics of adjustments made directly on the controller (as the Radiolite 2 does not have a screen...). Thanks again. 

Developer (3 edits)

I found this manual for the BetaFPV Literadio 2:

http://support.betafpv.com/support/solutions/articles/27000061283-manual-for-literadio-2-radio-transmitter

However it doesn't mention anything about whether any setup adjustments is possible regarding the endpoints. My suggestion would be to contact BetaFPV directly and ask them if/how you can change the settings.

(FPV Freerider can only read what is coming in through the input manager. The input is shown as the little circles above the OK button as you go through calibration in Freerider. Ideally you should be able to move the little circles smoothly up and down between the lines on the left which marks the max/min value.) 

(And yes, the pictures in the document I sent in the earlier reply is from what is seen directly on the screen of the transmitter itself, in this case a Taranis X9D).

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I just bought FPV Freerider (Windows version 2019-11-22), but my controller doesn't work properly. 

When calibrating and the sticks are in the middle, the circles are not centered, but in the bottom. Moving the sticks in the positive direction, the circles move up normally, but in the negative direction, the circles immediately jump to the top.

Could it be that FPV Freerider doesn't handle negative numbers coming from the controller correctly?

My controller is a Turnigy 9XR Pro running OpenTX 2.3.7. 


EDIT: I did a little experimentation with Unity 2017.4.40f1. Debug.Log(Input.GetAxis("Horizontal")) prints out values between 1 and -1 when the throttle is between the top and middle. Then suddenly goes to 1 when below the middle point. I wonder if it's a Unity bug, since this joystick test app works fine: http://www.planetpointy.co.uk/joystick-test-application/

Developer

It's a known issue with the Unity input manager and some versions of OpenTX. 

Yes you are right, you need to setup the endpoints on your radio to go from 0 to +100 (instead of - 100 to +100) 

You can find information on how to get your controller set up in the Taranis setup guide

(There are also a lot of youtube videos that shows how to do it).

You can also find some general tips in the user manual.

Hi,

have a problem with a simple USB RC "Transmitter". In WIN 10 Properties i can see action when i push the sticks. But in Freerider no action when i try to calibrate. About one year ago i had no problem with this transmitter. I already tried the WIN 10 USB Driver fix. Same result. Can somebody help me further?



Developer

The input system in Freerider is the same as before, so I suspect there must be something that has changed on your system.

The automatic Windows 10 update broke the USB drivers for a lot of people, so that would be the first things that I would investigate further. I understand that you have already tried it, but I believe on some systems it might be more persistent and you might need to use a different method. Here is the method that usually works for most people (the one I guess that you have already tried).

You might want to try to search for some other methods if that didn't solve the issue on your computer. Try searching for "windows 10 usb joystick driver" on Youtube for example, here are some links: 1 2 3 4 5

Also check, just in case - that you don't have any other joysticks/controllers connected, that might cause a conflict. And, make sure you uninstall vJoy and Smartpropoplus if you have them installed. Their driver messes with things when connecting via USB.

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