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When crying wolf became scary ...

A topic by crazyhoundgamedesign created Jul 24, 2025 Views: 383 Replies: 4
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While I don't agree with the recent changes, I understand why itch has made its decision, and why the Card Payment Industry is interfering, possibly beyond its reach.

For itch, this has hurt it reputationally, and will hurt it financially, but it needed to be done, for now.

In a world where social perception and media is driven by scandal and half truths, an opinion can snowball into a movement that can lead to incredibly damaging consequences.

Big business knows this, and has known for a long time the damage that can be done if they are seen to do nothing when someone vocally disagrees with their operations, even if they have little to no control over the root cause of the negative perception.

For itch, acting on this perception means the loss of a substantial amount of revenue at the behest of the Payment Card Industry.

For the Payment Card Industry, the claims against them or itch, even if unfounded, risk substantial reputational damage to them, and possible other consequences.

Their fear is not what itch supports, or even the claims being made by 3rd parties. What they fear is their businesses being held accountable for enabling the funding of what could be considered as extreme content.

If they are seen not to act, and the situation escalates, their operations in providing services to itch, on a global scale, could be viewed in some countries as corrupt, illegal, money laundering or fraud.

Even if the claims are unsubstantiated there is still a risk of these situations escalating to court cases in different jurisdictions that can both be time consuming and expensive.  Add on the likelihood that at least one of these cases could occur in a country with a corrupt judiciary, then the risk of being held "accountable" becomes a reality.  This would set a precedent for other nations to equally try to hold them to account and could result in their businesses being prevented from operating in those jurisdictions, and potentially, any allied jurisdictions.

The loss of potential revenue from making these actions vs. being blocked from trading in entire nations makes it a no brainer for the boards of the Payment Card Industry.

This is likely why they have chosen to interfere with sites and services like itch.

I don't condone or agree with it, but when public opinion is swayed by fear and scandal, this is the logical result.  Even if they are eventually legally restrained from this type of interference in some countries, they will always try to reduce or remove such risks because the cost of mitigation is always substantially less than the cost of the risk becoming reality.

There may be ways that itch can manage this situation, but from the sounds of it, they have some work to do.

I will still use itch, as a hobby/learner dev, it is still the best place for game jams, and I hope that itch can find a balance that works for everyone.

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If you're involved in planning the future of itch, good luck.

Also, thank you.  The jams and the community here have made giving gamedev a go an enjoyable experience.

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I am happy that you are striking a logical and rational perspective on this whole situation. 

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It doesn't fix the problem, sadly it leaves 2 options, accommodate the new dynamic and look for ways of supporting both developers and the stake holders pushing the changes, or try to challenge the situation, neither of which is easy or straight forward.

It would be simpler if there was an approach that allowed itch to continue much as it has been provided some additional controls or accountability measures were in place with a reporting mechanism to appropriate stake holders.  Rather than a blanket ban, this could allow for the Payment handlers to gain clarity over how itch intends to control such material.

As much as payment handlers shouldn't be able to enforce censorship beyond legal parameters, because they are operating to their own policies, perhaps there's a way that providing them with some visibility of itch's controls (present or planned) that could improve the relationship.  If they are trying to enforce a blanket approach that goes beyond legal limitations, then they should be able to explain to itch why they are taking the stance they are.

Without reasonable discussion to understand what the limits are and why, there can't be a way forward.

If they are unwilling or unable to provide an appropriate reason for the enforcement of their policies beyond legal limitations, then they are likely breaking the law in some respects and could be held accountable if this is the case.