Have to agree with most here while I love its a darker game and is much more mature than other games with romance it seems they went a little over board I would say keep the endings they have now and add more happier ones I was pretty annoyed with the Heath cutting himself off from reality one it was like nothing i did  (persuading him to not take drugs for sex , maybe stopping smoking etc ) mattered at all I may aswell of just gone with it all. The writing is brilliant  the choices we get are more realistic than I have seen in other games ..even if it looks like our choices never even mattered in the end .

Here are my thoughts about the game.. I havent see all of the endings and just watching playthroughs

I've read some of the comments and yep i spoil the endings myself..

Im basically stalking this for the art, I like the fact that they dont look generic ('w')b

when it comes from the endings, I have a thing for psychological horror I think I played every game and visual novel around the internet

they have endings such as they are stuck in their fantasies while their real world rots... the other one killed someones enemy, hide their body and went crazy in the end it was all in his mind.

Heath's ending (normal)  this ending looks like a normal boring ending but if you put realism, this is a happy ending but it seem that heath is scarred that lead him from his addictness in TV.

I havent seen randal and markus' ending haha sorry.. 

the most creepy part of this vn is the part where you pretend that you take the drug and make love with heath and the lucid dreaming from markus' route

rating its dark and horror side, all i can say is... its rather mellow for me but the drugs make it sound taboo

if you are the type who reads touchy feel-y romance, it will just give you that pink raburabu in a short time and BAMMM! no fairytale ending for you haha

this game reminds me of a BL VN  "sweet pool" it doesnt have happy endings.. the other lover had an amnesia while the MC is watching him far away, thats the ending of that VN

i read someones post telling that the characters didnt grow

for me, they are like doors that you need to open and you are the key. I agree they didnt grow, i dont see metamorphosis either which is very common in anime romance.

sorry for the long post and bad english

Whelp this put me off buying the game 

I just finished game fpr then first time, romanced Health. I don't know if there is a good end for him but I reall like my end. I didn't followed him in his betrayal (I'm a firm believer of the Camarilla both for the Vampire and the Human, so I was not going to betray the Iskari in this univers) and remain at Saorie's side. Really like that he has vanished of my unlife and that my character coul say that bit by bit, she think less and less of him, like he will stay a bittersweet memory but nothing less.

Markus was right somehow, she was with him BECAUSE of his humanity, but as she embrace her vampiric nature, it was logical that she distance from him (the end was passionnate but ephemere). So, I don't know if that could have turned better, but this last view, at Saorie's side, was fullfilling.

I must ask, if Saorise and her Iskaris are Camarilla and Randal and the Mavvar the Arnach's, Andrei is the Sabbat right? If so, I mut say that he is one of the best Sabbat representant I ever seen. I almost wanted to join him (unilike these crazy bastard in Bloodlines 1, their were really good antagonist but Sabbat is more subtil and corrupting in book).

Your Anarch's were right in the spot too. Really nice philosophie, charismatic leader but really not viable in the futur.

Camarilla are son of bitches but even if I really don't like them, all my vampire character could see that their laws were really useful AND essential both for Vampiree society and Human society... but yeah, I do agree with anarch somewhere, they are generally full of shit and insufferable... 

I just started on this game and immediately after ending Heath's route, I requested for a refund.

The game is so depressing, I cant take it. I invested so much love and effort comforting Heath, only to end up with him being so broken and emotionless "_" 

I know the devs wanted to make it as realistic as possible. Like I get it; life isnt always rainbows and butterflies. But if you're gonna throw that kind of shit to me, might as well dont give me any romance options in the first place. 

If only I knew Heath would end up that way, I wouldnt bother going all out to comfort him. All the love and time I invested turns out to be pointless at the end. 

^Heath watching the romance movie on a continuous loop. After that war ended, he just seemed to lose all sense of sanity and comprehension. My poor baby :(  If this isnt some messed up shit, Idk what is.

Atfirst I thought I had gotten the bad ending but after researching about it online and watching playthrough of some youtubers, seems to me that all the characters are pretty fucked up. They all have some sort of issues or if they dont, they will end up with it. Just like how Heath ended so emotionless, Randal's ending was pretty similar.

I actually emailed the devs about this. I asked if there are any plans on making happy endings. And the fact that Im not the one wanting happy endings says alot. They have yet to get back to me but hopefully, i wont get dissapointed.

Like the others I agree the endings were a bummer. Tbh the only thing that made me feel like less bummed is knowing that Ash is going to be happy with David. I like to imagine that after the game is over he and David decided to leave LA to go somewhere else, I know in the og game that David is Luka's brother who became a blood pet of a vampire, so it's cool to imagine Ash and David going to Sanfran and running into Luka and then Luka realizing that David is either a vampire now or just genuinely happy to be with Ash--

I'm sorry I just really love David guys.

I've yet to download the version from this site as for some reason after waiting for a million years for download, it refuses to install. 

Major "SPOILER ALERTS " to follow. 

As only played twice my memory of character names is rubbish so hope you understand whom I'm referring to.

Anyway using the Google Play "full version", I have found a happy ending with Heath when I was a Golgotha. Essentially I listened to him every time he wanted to talk. Flirted, complimented and had as much physical contact as possible. Also went places he wanted to go, e.g. stupid Hollywood party for famous people. I didn't take drugs and essentially tried to get him as much confidence as possible. 

With the other two "love interests", I tried to get as close as possible but not romantic, plus trying to be as diplomatic when they brought up their most extreme views. 

Spent most free nights at (can't remember name) but bar Heath owns, making sure also mix with members of all groups when there or at places with all groups I was sent on a mission to,  unless situations like trying to get girl at bar to be a spy. 

Did everything was asked by the woman in glasses, although meeting with bloke in graveyard I asked him every question I could and then agreed to join him. Few meetings later Heath was asked to join and like puppy followed me (meant he took quite few of his house with me by himself).

Making sure all the way through game interactions with others I was never 100% rude, but on occasions would have to be convinced to do something,  or e.g. when confronted  with my lack of sticking up when asked my opinion for instance I think Randal confronted on it chose the "I'll do it when needed/important". though pretty much always said (to her face) that I would do what glasses woman asked me to plus either agreed with her point of view, at most asked if there wasn't another way for  her to get what she wanted if 4 possible answers(if only 3 or less sometimes gave "..." reply). 

Once on stage said that we should follow "graveyard bloke", Heath and I escape to fight another day...together. 

Hopefully helps 

I've just completed the game on Steam (and read the  Developer Commentary Book) and wanted to say that this game is brilliant. The dev had a lot of courage to release something not cis/heteronormative, not dumb or empty (I can't find better words), but fierce, hopeful and passionate.

Though, I also laughed out loud for 15 minutes straight after reaching Randal's special ending, since it was so awfully similar to a certain scene from an RPG I've played (not VtMB). It was a very refreshing take and I truly appreciate it.

And that the NSFW scenes are neither mandatory nor they are the reward is nice. 

This visual novel has the not-so-pretty nature of humans their unattainable dreams of peace and happiness figured out. Definitely something worth thinking if you aim to better understand where the problems of humanity stem from. Understanding misery and its inevitableness.

I can see how some people are frustrated with the endings and romance, but I do appreciate how unconventional, dark and truly miserable it is, not to mention the food for thought it delivers.

Love Markus's character, his true/special ending gives a bit of closure to the whole game.

i got this game from a different platform (steam) but i decided to leave my review here. 

this was an AMAZING game, throughout the entire playthrough i was in awe about how the setting, characters, and plot were simply amazing.

and theeeeen i reached the ending. i was all "oh shit, i didn't expect to get a bad ending considering my choices, but i'll try again" so i tried again and again and all i could get were the most heart wrenching endings known to man. At that point, i gave up and went to find some walkthroughs.

i completed 

every

last

fucking

ending. 

not ONE of them was satisfying in any way. i won't put in any spoilers other than there are no fucking good endings. not even bittersweet endings, just plain ass fucking bitter. im so pissed and disappointed, it was such an amazing game and i fell in love with the characters and the story and everything it had to offer but the endings make me regret ever even buying it. 

i would not recommend this game to anyone who wants a remotely good, happy, or sufficient ending. amazing game, shitty endings. 

I may be late to the party but the endings man... I don't have to repeat what so many others already stated. But let me tell you something: As someone who loves writing VN storylines and characters with a deeply routed love to twisted endings I, by no means, expect every ending to be happy. This is coming from someone who repeatedly tries to kill characters via plot that are dearly loved by readers, who's not afraid to jump right into depressing topics and especially from someone who has a thing for fleshing out abusive routes. HOWEVER, no story ever should only punish the reader, especially not VNs. I felt horrible playing through the game three times till I got the special Randal ending and it made me angry. Not because of the ending but because it was the special ending. It did, infact, destroy all my eager to play any other route, I did eventually but I never bothered for the secret endings anymore. The worst routes should always be the one easiest accessible, they should leave behind the desire to do better. A VNs replayability relies on this concept. The harder it is to get a good ending the more rewarding all the spent hours feel. It's not even about the happy end at all, it's about treating the players right and reward their efforts and support with the right thing. I wish Randal's special ending was just MC and him leaving effin LA behind and ditch everything. They could have been on the run for their whole existence, traveling from country to country and hide here and there, helping other vampires and people along the way. It haden't been a happily ever after ending but it had been one that felt more fulfilling, getting Randal out of the spotlight, out of the leader position he was caught up in, doing good things on the way to help others AND to help Randal and his inner demons, make him more free, more spirited, more who he chose to be. It had been an unlife on the run but it could have been a damn good run.  (Randal is just the route that pisses me off the most, to be fair).

I love the worldbuilding, I'm a big sucker for VtM so the whole concept resonated with me deeply, the three houses, what they stood for, everything. The characters were all so unique but I just feel punished for spending hours on hours especially to a special route. I don't think this is how special routes are supposed to be, they should be rewarding, they ask so much of the player's time... having MC being literally abused by the person that loved them is just shattering the whole motivation to play any other route or find any more special endings. And the normal endings aren't good either... None of them. There is a reason I didn't pick this game up again for 2 whole years and I just played it again and still feel like it's not worth it. Money spent on something that could have been a masterpiece but ruined it with the endings all together. No one wants to rinse and repeat a sob story over and over again. The story may stick with the people for longer than other stories but as said, VN's are dependent on replayability and this one just fails at that.

Super late to this but I don't care. Got this game on Steam and was so excited to play it. Wasn't expecting the endings to be all that happy but also wasn't expecting to be so disappointed. 

I usually save the best for last when choosing romantic LIs and so I started off with Randal. Turns out his ending was my favorite. Wasn't the best but it was better than the others. At least so far. Haven't done the others endings and not really excited to play anymore.

And it's all because of Markus. The bastard. I really liked his character and would have done anything for him but then he goes off and leaves me right before the big finale! Not only that but then he goes and finds a new companion?! While I was waiting for him!! I'll never forgive him. 😤💔

I will probably do the others too at some point, and maybe Markus route again. I hope there will be an option to end his life. 😒