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A jam submission

Ace Murderer: Detective HunterView game page

Find out the detective's identity using Ronald A. Knox's mystery genre conventions.
Submitted by Wapachow (@Wapachow) — 7 hours, 57 minutes before the deadline
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Results

CriteriaRankScore*Raw Score
Presentation#26083.0833.900
Overall#34052.7673.500
Enjoyment#36922.4513.100
Creativity#38142.7673.500

Ranked from 10 ratings. Score is adjusted from raw score by the median number of ratings per game in the jam.

How does your game fit the theme?
A murder mystery game where the murderer tries to figure out who the detective is.

Did your team create the vast majority of the art during the 48 hours?

No

We used pre-existing art

Did your team create the vast majority of the music during the 48 hours?

No

We used pre-existing audio

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Comments

Submitted(+1)

Incredible idea, congrats ! I'm sadly not very good with the Knox's rules so I didn't succeeded in this mission but there is a big potential ! If you do something bigger with this project, count me in !

Developer(+1)

Thanks.
I thought I wouldn't do anything more with this idea, but, with almost everyone commenting about how I should, I am tempted to. No promises though.

Submitted(+1)

Ok, I'm officially stupid. I understand Knox's rules on their own, but I don't get the logic of applying them to characters. I mean, they're plot guidelines, not character tropes. Could you spare a cheat sheet for the dim-witted? :D

I think you definitely have to make a full game out of this. These concepts need more time to be properly fleshed out/explained to the player. I grew up to Agatha Christie novels, I would eat that sh*t up.

Submitted(+1)

P.S. the dialogue boxes are very hard to read. I didn't even notice they were there at first (I was standing too close to the characters).

Developer (2 edits)

Yeah, I probably could have explained them more. It's hard to know exactly how much someone won't know about something you do know.

The logic is like this: if a character was the detective of the story, would the story be violating any of Knox's rules? If so, which one.

So, the obvious example is the 7th rule, "The detective must not himself commit the crime": if the murderer was the detective, then the story would be violation the 7th rule, which therefore means that the murderer, in this case the player, isn't the detective. I think this would have been a good, easy tutorial for the player, but I didn't have enough time to implement it.

Glad you enjoyed it.

Submitted(+1)

Oh ok, I get it now. Let me retry it then and see if I can solve the mystery. ;)

Submitted(+1)

Definitely the best looking game I've seen from the jam yet!  Love the idea, although I was a bit stunted with the whole Knox's Commandments thing.  Overall great job, would love to see a full version with metahumans or something to make it truly beautiful!

Developer (1 edit)

Thanks.
I would definitely like to make a full game out of this, but I'm not sure most people would get/be interested in the idea as a full game. Even then, the mystery wouldn't be able to be that difficult since the mystery just relies on following these rules, so even a full game can't be too long since players would either solve it too soon or the game would just need to hide things more which isn't fun. Good mysteries are ones that you never notice the solution to even though it's staring you in the face the whole time.

I could just make many different levels with entirely different mysteries, but that might repetitive after awhile. I could instead just make my own rules, but then it's just a normal puzzle game with rules attached. Knox's rules describe mystery conventions, so they work as rules because it's using ideas that mystery writers/readers/players deal with normally, only this time backwards.

The best I'd be able to do is make a very small polished game, which wouldn't be worth the effort.

Glad you enjoyed it at least.

Submitted

"The UE-Ace_Hunter Game has crashed and will close - Fatal error!"

Sorry, couldn't play it. A pity, the idea sound interesting.

Developer

Does it crash at a certain open or while opening it? Because I've tried it many times and have never gotten a crash. Maybe just try playing it again to see if the problem was just a once off.
If it still crashes, then maybe it's a platform/graphics problem. I didn't implement any graphics settings, so it might be a problem with that (on my end for addressing any potential problems or your end with your PC).

If it still crashes, then I'll thank you for at least founding the idea interesting.

Submitted(+1)

Also downloading it and trying a second time reproduces the same error while opening. It maybe has something to do with my old graphic card I suspect.

Submitted(+1)

very creative idea.

Developer

Thanks